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Feenz
12-19-2008, 08:03 PM
Guys and Gals

I am so delighted to have found this community.

Since reading the book (about 6 weeks ago), and finding this community, getting as much advice as possible, and most importantly, using the posts in here to make me get off my bum and do something about it, a lot has happened.

I'll try to keep this fairly brief, but happy to expand on anything if anyone is interested.

My First Step
Finding a suitable muse to test.
I spent so many hours and days going backward and forward try to decide which one was best, and why this one is not as good as that one.
Eventually I realised, I was being an idiot, and just decided to spend 5 minutes deciding which one of my fairly lame ideas I was going to go with, and just do it. For the pure reason of experiencing it and getting a feel for the process.

My first bit of advice : Just get on with it. Don't deliberate too much - especially for your first one. Just do it, with the express intention of learning and testing, totally expecting you'll probably fail.. but with style, and with a whole new raft of experience and knowledge under your belt - making the next one far more likely to succeed.. and you never know, this one might actually work out as well!

Second Step
Build the sales page (for an ebook, I've part written about driving techniques for specific brand of car).
I consider myself really poor at the copy side of the sale page, but just did what I could, and bashed somethign together.
Again, I spent too long trying to decide which bit should go where, and how it looked, and why i didn't like it, etc, etc, etc. Then just thought "for goodness sake.. get on with it already.. this is just testing!"

My second bit of advice : Just get on with it. Don't deliberate too much - especially for your first one. Just do it, with the express intention of learning and testing, totally expecting you'll probably fail.. but with style, and with a whole new raft of experience and knowledge under your belt - making the next one far more likely to succeed.. and you never know, this one might actually work out as well!

Third Step
Setting up adwords
I read a couple of great threads in here (thank you), and viewed as much material online as I could get my hands on.. basically filled my brain with this stuff for about 4 days. Then just went for it.
At first it was daunting.. the screens are filled with numbers and terms I didn't understand. But just get on with it, try some stuff.. protect yourself carefully by ensure you set the maximum daily spend to something comfortable, and then go and make some mistakes. It probably the quickest (And cheapest) way to really learn.

Fourth Step
Monitor and wait for the millions to roll in.

hmmm..

ok.. wait a bit more...

After a couple of days, not a lot had happened, I'd had a bit of a tweak with the adwords, but I wasn't getting any bites. Then I went crazy and stopped being so lazy with the adwords campaign, and went nuts with keywords. I added something in the region of 500 new keywords (and this is a tiny number compared to what I've been advised - 15,000 or more isn't unreasonable aparently)...

I went to bed.

Got up in the morning, and had made my first pseudo sale.

I was still about $40 down on theoretical cash though, so it still wasn't looking good.

2 hours later, another sale! things are looking better. I'm about evens now.

3 - 4 hours later.. another one!

JUST into profit...

nothing for 24 hours...

then another sale.

OK.. enough. This one is running at about evens without any further tuning of the landing page.

So I've temporarily stopped the test, and am building 3 different landing pages to test, as I'm getting easily enough visits .. I just need to convert better.

I'm amazed! But I guess I shouldn't be. Its not rocket science.

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Muse 2.

I decided, while the first muse was testing, to launch another muse.

I purchased JShop, which is a pretty sophisticated online store software package.

I picked a seriously niche, niche... and added about 50 products from that niche.

I had already established that there was little or no competition for highly targetted keywords on adwords, so I added as many of those as I could think of, and set it running.

This all took about 2 days.

Within 24 hours, I had my first sale, immediately into theoretical profit. But then nothing for another 24 hours, and dropping me back into loss.

Still very early days for both of these, but my biggest lesson to myself so far has been "just get on with it, and I am now (2 weeks later) so much closer, with lots more confidence, and much more knowledge and understanding than I was before.

Thanks so much for the motivation, encouragement and inspiration.

I will update as things move on, but hope that this early stage update can help to motivate other first timers like me to get started. :)

Grayman
12-19-2008, 10:09 PM
Very cool!

When you're ready you should tell us what your niches / websites are because you know everyone always likes concrete examples.

I'm also interested to know what software you used to rapidly put these things together and where you grabbed your products from.

Good luck!

Gina71
12-19-2008, 10:28 PM
What a fantastic post!
Thank you for sharing your story here. I feel exactly the same way.

I was deliberating and waiting - lacking confidence and generally nervous about getting started. Finally I just did it and now I am enjoying the process so much.

I can't wait to start my next muse. I have no idea what it will be. Muse creation is not my strong point (yet). My first attempt was a mainstream product that I have simply transformed into a muse.

Anyway - thanks for posting. I appreciate it.
Gina71

gvc223
12-19-2008, 10:47 PM
I can definitely relate. I went through a very similar process and quickly discovered that the best way to get it done is to start doing it. I used the same approach when I wrote my ebook by the way. I found that it was better to just start writing and then go through some editing rather than try to figure it all out first and then start working. Same goes for my site. Looking back, the first version was horrible, but after countless revisions, many based on feedback from here, it's really coming together. Best of luck.

Feenz
12-20-2008, 11:17 AM
@Grayman

Yeah, I'll give full concrete examples once I'm comfortable the muses are either on their way, or just not going to work.

What software?

The ebook sale system is from scratch, using basic photoshop, basic html, and php. The php is incredibly simple for this task, and could be learnt by anyone with access to google, quickly.

The shop sofware is JShop, and no programming knowledge is required.

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@Gina
@gvc

Thank you both, and I wish you all the best with your ventures.

Feenz
12-30-2008, 05:28 PM
Further update

The muse went live today (about 4 hours ago), accepting payment through paypal.

Its obviously way too early to tell if its going to be successful. In testing it appeared to be about break-even, but with a lot more imporovement available on the marketing side.

I emailed the 20 or so people who "ordered" during testing, and said its now available.

So far, 5 of those have ordered, and one more has ordered from adwords @ $47 a go (which worked out to be JUST the most profitable price point during testing - I tested 27, 47 and 67 - 27 was the least profitable, 67 was the next and very close, but just in front was 47).

To be quite honest, I'm stunned! But obviously delighted also. I have no specific expectations, apart from a learning curve, which should give me more enthusiasm, experience and ideas for the next one, and then the next.

Thank you to everyone on here for their great help and inspiration. I'll keep you updated as things progress.

Gina71
12-30-2008, 09:27 PM
Congratulations on your results!
Are you ready to share your URL?