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	<title>Comments on: Finding the Perfect Office Chair: Aeron vs. Swiss Ball vs. the FBI&#8217;s Pick&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: how to ease back pain</title>
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		<dc:creator>how to ease back pain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lower back pain is one of the most common physical problemstoday that occur in modern times. Due to our Because of ourway of life that has changed enormously since the last 200 years many of us suffer from lower back ache. The reason for this pain may vary but there are five steps you can take to minimize your pain or even may take away the back ache completely. Here are 5 steps you can and should take:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lower back pain is one of the most common physical problemstoday that occur in modern times. Due to our Because of ourway of life that has changed enormously since the last 200 years many of us suffer from lower back ache. The reason for this pain may vary but there are five steps you can take to minimize your pain or even may take away the back ache completely. Here are 5 steps you can and should take:</p>
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		<title>By: Alex H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 03:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure they are really meant for anyone. I really liked the look and the *ideal* of being able to use the headrest to look up at the ceiling and think deep thoughts. But I knew as soon as I sat at one that they were meant for someone not like me. (Me being a large--i.e., fat--person with a long torso.) I  looked at a similar list to the one above, and ended up with the Aeron. 

Now I&#039;ve restructured to a walking desk, and the hardest part of that was parting with the Aeron. It&#039;s definitely the comfiest seat in the house, and not just for &quot;task&quot; sitting. Someday, I want to convince the spouse that we need a &quot;war room&quot; styled dining set, replete with a slate table and Aeron chairs all round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure they are really meant for anyone. I really liked the look and the *ideal* of being able to use the headrest to look up at the ceiling and think deep thoughts. But I knew as soon as I sat at one that they were meant for someone not like me. (Me being a large&#8211;i.e., fat&#8211;person with a long torso.) I  looked at a similar list to the one above, and ended up with the Aeron. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ve restructured to a walking desk, and the hardest part of that was parting with the Aeron. It&#8217;s definitely the comfiest seat in the house, and not just for &#8220;task&#8221; sitting. Someday, I want to convince the spouse that we need a &#8220;war room&#8221; styled dining set, replete with a slate table and Aeron chairs all round.</p>
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		<title>By: ladylenalee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really nice chairs. But no matter how nice but you are not comfortable then its useless.</description>
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		<title>By: Gary Local</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Local</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim, I came across this article while looking for a more comfortable lounge chair, I was surprised to see it was by you as I have read one of your books.

 I am sitting on a brand new leather sofa that is part of a suite that was pretty expensive and my wife loves the design and I cannot get comfortable in it at all. 
I have mild scoliosis but it seemed ok for the 15 to 20 minutes we tried it in the showroom. I wonder if they could apply the same principles to domestic seating ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim, I came across this article while looking for a more comfortable lounge chair, I was surprised to see it was by you as I have read one of your books.</p>
<p> I am sitting on a brand new leather sofa that is part of a suite that was pretty expensive and my wife loves the design and I cannot get comfortable in it at all.<br />
I have mild scoliosis but it seemed ok for the 15 to 20 minutes we tried it in the showroom. I wonder if they could apply the same principles to domestic seating ?</p>
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		<title>By: Goran Aleksic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goran Aleksic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 01:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

 I suffer from what is called hyperlordosis, or forward hyperextension of lower ( lumbar ) spine. I find most chair with lumbar support to excasarbate the condition. In other words, I find lumbar support pushing my lumbar spine forward even further. Chairs without lumbar support are equally bad for my back.
Over the course of last few years I set in several Herman Miller chairs: Aeron, Mirra and currently own Embody
My overall impression is that HM chairs are more about style than ergonomics. 
Lumbar and back support is in my opinion one of the worst in the industry, and Embody particularly fails in this area. Pixelated support in lower back on Embody is too hard and inflexible causing actually my mid back to overly flex and arch, instead of providing support. 
Aeron was terrible due to sharp and uncomfortable edge on the forward sloping part of the seat. While it did provide some support in the lower back, it tottaly failed to provide any in the upper back. 
Also, I&#039;m not sure why, but neither Embody nor Aeron have option for being equipped with arm rests that can be adjusted forward and backward.
Arm rests on these stick too far out, and it&#039;s impossible ( for me at lest ) to keep arm rest at the desk level and bring chair close enough so I can type on the keyboard without bending my upper back forward.
I have a feeling these chairs are not properly tested for work in front of the computer when they are designed. 

Anyways, my negative experiences with HM chairs can be attributed due to my lumbar hyperlordotic condition, so please take above statements with caution.

Finally, can anyone recommend good chair or solution for people suffering from lumbar hyperlordosis? I have seen several physicians, chiros and physical therapists, but no treatment gave any positive results, nor were they able to offer any practical or usefull advice on dealing with this condition while at work ( FYI I&#039;m full-timve software engineer ). Even if there are any benefits from the treatment, they are easily undone by even few hours of work in front of the computer.
The condition is causing me lots of grief and it is seriously impacting both my overall well being and work performance. Any advice and tips will be hugely appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p> I suffer from what is called hyperlordosis, or forward hyperextension of lower ( lumbar ) spine. I find most chair with lumbar support to excasarbate the condition. In other words, I find lumbar support pushing my lumbar spine forward even further. Chairs without lumbar support are equally bad for my back.<br />
Over the course of last few years I set in several Herman Miller chairs: Aeron, Mirra and currently own Embody<br />
My overall impression is that HM chairs are more about style than ergonomics.<br />
Lumbar and back support is in my opinion one of the worst in the industry, and Embody particularly fails in this area. Pixelated support in lower back on Embody is too hard and inflexible causing actually my mid back to overly flex and arch, instead of providing support.<br />
Aeron was terrible due to sharp and uncomfortable edge on the forward sloping part of the seat. While it did provide some support in the lower back, it tottaly failed to provide any in the upper back.<br />
Also, I&#8217;m not sure why, but neither Embody nor Aeron have option for being equipped with arm rests that can be adjusted forward and backward.<br />
Arm rests on these stick too far out, and it&#8217;s impossible ( for me at lest ) to keep arm rest at the desk level and bring chair close enough so I can type on the keyboard without bending my upper back forward.<br />
I have a feeling these chairs are not properly tested for work in front of the computer when they are designed. </p>
<p>Anyways, my negative experiences with HM chairs can be attributed due to my lumbar hyperlordotic condition, so please take above statements with caution.</p>
<p>Finally, can anyone recommend good chair or solution for people suffering from lumbar hyperlordosis? I have seen several physicians, chiros and physical therapists, but no treatment gave any positive results, nor were they able to offer any practical or usefull advice on dealing with this condition while at work ( FYI I&#8217;m full-timve software engineer ). Even if there are any benefits from the treatment, they are easily undone by even few hours of work in front of the computer.<br />
The condition is causing me lots of grief and it is seriously impacting both my overall well being and work performance. Any advice and tips will be hugely appreciated!</p>
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