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	<title>Comments on: The Science of Fat-Loss: Why a Calorie Isn&#8217;t Always a Calorie</title>
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		<title>By: Michael H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll give it a shot.  This whole example is probably a &quot;typo&quot; of sorts.  If you read Tim&#039;s previous book Four Hour Work Week, you will remember that Tim is a big proponent of outsourcing almost everything that actually can be outsourced.  A lot of writers do this these days, especially if they don&#039;t have a writing background and/or enjoy it.  I&#039;m pretty sure Tim did research for the book, put together the outline, and gave another writer instructions such as &quot;In this section, comment on the idea that calories lost during exercise aren&#039;t as impressive as they seem since you burn 100 cals doing nothing.  Just for example sake, say you lost 107 calories doing some exercise, factoring the 100 doing nothing, the exercise only made a 7 cal difference.  You fill in the section with a better example.&quot;  But Tim&#039;s writer probably just used the numbers Tim provided.  

I think that is what happened because anyone who has every been on a stairmaster or treadmill (and Tim has) would know that the only way to burn only 107 cals on it is if it were broken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give it a shot.  This whole example is probably a &#8220;typo&#8221; of sorts.  If you read Tim&#8217;s previous book Four Hour Work Week, you will remember that Tim is a big proponent of outsourcing almost everything that actually can be outsourced.  A lot of writers do this these days, especially if they don&#8217;t have a writing background and/or enjoy it.  I&#8217;m pretty sure Tim did research for the book, put together the outline, and gave another writer instructions such as &#8220;In this section, comment on the idea that calories lost during exercise aren&#8217;t as impressive as they seem since you burn 100 cals doing nothing.  Just for example sake, say you lost 107 calories doing some exercise, factoring the 100 doing nothing, the exercise only made a 7 cal difference.  You fill in the section with a better example.&#8221;  But Tim&#8217;s writer probably just used the numbers Tim provided.  </p>
<p>I think that is what happened because anyone who has every been on a stairmaster or treadmill (and Tim has) would know that the only way to burn only 107 cals on it is if it were broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashlie Winner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashlie Winner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the book read it in a matter of, well less than my average work day. I want to try this but I am a running/workout junkie- I do it for my mental health, love running half/full marathons and can not will not stop. Im fit, 14% BF, 124#, 5&#039;6&#039;&#039;.... But something is missing- Hope I can find it using 4HB. 

Right off the bat on PG 23 I became baffled. In the GA (gray box) Tim says. &quot;107 calories you burned during that kick ass hour-long Stairmaster session?&quot;

Really? Being an avid &#039;Stair Master&#039; I know for the average person that can&#039;t be true. Can it? Is my ridiculously over priced Sunnto HRM lying to me (I know it&#039;s not completely error proof)? In one hour on a stairclimber I burn more like 500+ kcal with an avg HR of 170ish. I never trust the machines but my watch knows more stats about me than the avg person knows about herself... Can anybody clarify me, or pg 23?

Thanks Tim for providing fitness junkies like me &#039;potato chips for the mind&#039; your book excites me like a fat kid in a combo candy/doughnut shop!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the book read it in a matter of, well less than my average work day. I want to try this but I am a running/workout junkie- I do it for my mental health, love running half/full marathons and can not will not stop. Im fit, 14% BF, 124#, 5&#8217;6&#8221;&#8230;. But something is missing- Hope I can find it using 4HB. </p>
<p>Right off the bat on PG 23 I became baffled. In the GA (gray box) Tim says. &#8220;107 calories you burned during that kick ass hour-long Stairmaster session?&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? Being an avid &#8216;Stair Master&#8217; I know for the average person that can&#8217;t be true. Can it? Is my ridiculously over priced Sunnto HRM lying to me (I know it&#8217;s not completely error proof)? In one hour on a stairclimber I burn more like 500+ kcal with an avg HR of 170ish. I never trust the machines but my watch knows more stats about me than the avg person knows about herself&#8230; Can anybody clarify me, or pg 23?</p>
<p>Thanks Tim for providing fitness junkies like me &#8216;potato chips for the mind&#8217; your book excites me like a fat kid in a combo candy/doughnut shop!</p>
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		<title>By: emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Completely unrelated question - are you a fan of hurling tim? I ask this because your holding a hurl in your hand in the photo above. Greatest sport on earth!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely unrelated question &#8211; are you a fan of hurling tim? I ask this because your holding a hurl in your hand in the photo above. Greatest sport on earth!</p>
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		<title>By: Lassi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this post there are two studies. In both studies a significant caloric restriction takes place. 

In the first study subjects are lean young men. They do not have a lot energy stored as fat mass. 

When you take a lean person and make him eat 500 kcal under his BMR for 24 weeks, starvation occurs and he is going to encounter a lot of physiological and psychological problems.

The second study was done with subjects who were OBESE. That means they had a lot of energy stored as fat mass. When these people are deprived from food they get the amount of energy needed from their energy stores. 

Also they were on the diet for only TWO WEEKS, they could&#039;ve gone without food altogether for that long.

It&#039;s totally misleading to enforce a point with these two studies and the conclusions that were drawn from these studies are completely biased.
 
I&#039;m not saying that eating a lot of steak doesn&#039;t fill you up. 

All I&#039;m saying is that there are a lot of healthy and balanced ways to diet down and every single time it comes down to caloric restriction. 

For more sensible and referenced information check out the work of John Barban, Brad Pilon, Alan Aragon, Lyle Mcdonald, Martin Berkhan and don&#039;t trust information just because it sounds cool.

Peace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this post there are two studies. In both studies a significant caloric restriction takes place. </p>
<p>In the first study subjects are lean young men. They do not have a lot energy stored as fat mass. </p>
<p>When you take a lean person and make him eat 500 kcal under his BMR for 24 weeks, starvation occurs and he is going to encounter a lot of physiological and psychological problems.</p>
<p>The second study was done with subjects who were OBESE. That means they had a lot of energy stored as fat mass. When these people are deprived from food they get the amount of energy needed from their energy stores. </p>
<p>Also they were on the diet for only TWO WEEKS, they could&#8217;ve gone without food altogether for that long.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s totally misleading to enforce a point with these two studies and the conclusions that were drawn from these studies are completely biased.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that eating a lot of steak doesn&#8217;t fill you up. </p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that there are a lot of healthy and balanced ways to diet down and every single time it comes down to caloric restriction. </p>
<p>For more sensible and referenced information check out the work of John Barban, Brad Pilon, Alan Aragon, Lyle Mcdonald, Martin Berkhan and don&#8217;t trust information just because it sounds cool.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: LCForevah</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCForevah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 04:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on what information? You have made such a series of assumptions that have no basis in research. Red meat is not bad for you. Usually, when someone develops a  sensitivity to red meat it&#039;s because of the hormones, antibiotics, pesticides and herbicides found therein, not the meat itself. Complex carbohydrates have their own set of problems--ask anyone with IBS. I personally can&#039;t consume them without intestinal pain being the result. Complex carbs, all carbs, break down into glucose which is handled by insulin created in the pancreas, or fructose which is processed by the liver, both situations are harmful on a prolonged basis. The human body was not made to process as much carb as most people are eating nowadays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on what information? You have made such a series of assumptions that have no basis in research. Red meat is not bad for you. Usually, when someone develops a  sensitivity to red meat it&#8217;s because of the hormones, antibiotics, pesticides and herbicides found therein, not the meat itself. Complex carbohydrates have their own set of problems&#8211;ask anyone with IBS. I personally can&#8217;t consume them without intestinal pain being the result. Complex carbs, all carbs, break down into glucose which is handled by insulin created in the pancreas, or fructose which is processed by the liver, both situations are harmful on a prolonged basis. The human body was not made to process as much carb as most people are eating nowadays.</p>
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