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	<title>Comments on: How to Rent Your Ideas to Fortune 500 Companies: Part II (Plus: Hacking Japan&#160;Tips)</title>
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	<description>Tim Ferriss's 4-Hour Workweek and Lifestyle Design Blog</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stephen Key</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/11/27/how-to-rent-your-ideas-to-fortune-500-companies-part-ii-plus-hacking-japan-tips/#comment-18689</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KC WROTE
Just came up with an idea to exploit a product that is not really advertised and would be a no-risk proposition to companies that I’m targeting, especially since there wouldn’t be anything new to create or manufacture besides labeling for the product. It’s not private labeling, just a different way for the company or manufacturer to market the product. I would like to refine my sales and communicating skills before I start contacting the manufacturers and would be interested in your DVD’s, but I’m deaf, so they wouldn’t be much use. However, I’m still very interested in learning from your experiences and would be interested in any other offers you may have besides the DVD’s that would be of use for me. Thanks. -KC

REPLY

KC, 
Sounds like you may have something. You need to figure out what it is your getting IP(patent protection) on though. You might be able  to protect your idea with a business method patent? However, business method patents can be a bit more tricky than a regular patent.  I've done quite well with my SpinLabel invention. My spin label was not a new product but packaging that helped market the product it was on. I patented the method of applying my new label innovation to containers. So what I'm saying is that you need to think through what it is your protecting. 

With regards to my inventRight course, the course comes with an over 200 page workbook, so you don't have to listen to the CD's. Unlimited phone support is also included with our course, but using phone support may be difficult or expensive if you need an interpreter. I'd be happy to communicate with you via email instead if you decided to buy the course. 

Keep Inventing,
Stephen Key 
inventRight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KC WROTE<br />
Just came up with an idea to exploit a product that is not really advertised and would be a no-risk proposition to companies that I’m targeting, especially since there wouldn’t be anything new to create or manufacture besides labeling for the product. It’s not private labeling, just a different way for the company or manufacturer to market the product. I would like to refine my sales and communicating skills before I start contacting the manufacturers and would be interested in your DVD’s, but I’m deaf, so they wouldn’t be much use. However, I’m still very interested in learning from your experiences and would be interested in any other offers you may have besides the DVD’s that would be of use for me. Thanks. -KC</p>
<p>REPLY</p>
<p>KC,<br />
Sounds like you may have something. You need to figure out what it is your getting IP(patent protection) on though. You might be able  to protect your idea with a business method patent? However, business method patents can be a bit more tricky than a regular patent.  I&#8217;ve done quite well with my SpinLabel invention. My spin label was not a new product but packaging that helped market the product it was on. I patented the method of applying my new label innovation to containers. So what I&#8217;m saying is that you need to think through what it is your protecting. </p>
<p>With regards to my inventRight course, the course comes with an over 200 page workbook, so you don&#8217;t have to listen to the CD&#8217;s. Unlimited phone support is also included with our course, but using phone support may be difficult or expensive if you need an interpreter. I&#8217;d be happy to communicate with you via email instead if you decided to buy the course. </p>
<p>Keep Inventing,<br />
Stephen Key&nbsp;inventRight</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/11/27/how-to-rent-your-ideas-to-fortune-500-companies-part-ii-plus-hacking-japan-tips/#comment-18667</link>
		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen-

Just came up with an idea to exploit a product that is not really advertised and would be a no-risk proposition to companies that I'm targeting, especially since there wouldn't be anything new to create or manufacture besides labeling for the product.  It's not private labeling, just a different way for the company or manufacturer to market the product.  I would like to refine my sales and communicating skills before I start contacting the manufacturers and would be interested in your DVD's, but I'm deaf, so they wouldn't be much use.  However, I'm still very interested in learning from your experiences and would be interested in any other offers you may have besides the DVD's that would be of use for me.  Thanks.

-KC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen-</p>
<p>Just came up with an idea to exploit a product that is not really advertised and would be a no-risk proposition to companies that I&#8217;m targeting, especially since there wouldn&#8217;t be anything new to create or manufacture besides labeling for the product.  It&#8217;s not private labeling, just a different way for the company or manufacturer to market the product.  I would like to refine my sales and communicating skills before I start contacting the manufacturers and would be interested in your DVD&#8217;s, but I&#8217;m deaf, so they wouldn&#8217;t be much use.  However, I&#8217;m still very interested in learning from your experiences and would be interested in any other offers you may have besides the DVD&#8217;s that would be of use for me.  Thanks.&nbsp;-KC</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Key</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/11/27/how-to-rent-your-ideas-to-fortune-500-companies-part-ii-plus-hacking-japan-tips/#comment-18571</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jeff, 

RE: your question

Your idea is about 5%, protection(Patent,copyrights and trademarks) is about 5% and the remaining 90% is selling the idea. The more qualified individual that should review your idea is the manufacturers you are selling to. Manufacturers that have been in the business 10, 20 or 30 years are the best people to get advise from. Advise or opinions from people or companies that aren't being asked to put up money are questionable at best. 

Keep Inventing, 
Stephen Key</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jeff, </p>
<p>RE: your question</p>
<p>Your idea is about 5%, protection(Patent,copyrights and trademarks) is about 5% and the remaining 90% is selling the idea. The more qualified individual that should review your idea is the manufacturers you are selling to. Manufacturers that have been in the business 10, 20 or 30 years are the best people to get advise from. Advise or opinions from people or companies that aren&#8217;t being asked to put up money are questionable at best. </p>
<p>Keep Inventing,<br />
Stephen&nbsp;Key</p>
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		<title>By: JEFF PLASTER</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/11/27/how-to-rent-your-ideas-to-fortune-500-companies-part-ii-plus-hacking-japan-tips/#comment-18325</link>
		<dc:creator>JEFF PLASTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 05:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tim.
         My question is this, what if I have some great ideas involving the automotive and construction feilds, but dont want the hassle of trying to sell them. Is it possible to get a more qualified individual to look at my ideas and drawings and sell them for say half the profits (if any)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tim.<br />
         My question is this, what if I have some great ideas involving the automotive and construction feilds, but dont want the hassle of trying to sell them. Is it possible to get a more qualified individual to look at my ideas and drawings and sell them for say half the profits (if&nbsp;any)?</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/11/27/how-to-rent-your-ideas-to-fortune-500-companies-part-ii-plus-hacking-japan-tips/#comment-10366</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, very informative site !!!

I have a couple of questions to present to the table. One is what TERRY ASHTON posted, so can anyone answer those question presented by ASHTON.

What if your idea is in a field that would take years of schooling,  to actually come up with a prototype to sell. For example, LCD flat screen TV's , I and I'm sure many, many others had this idea but how many of us can actually build a TV. How can an idealist sell a idea , like LCD TV's but has no clue and would take years to get a clue about the product design, get a license ?

Also, what if your idea  doesn't fall under " improving on an existing invention " ? What if your idea , is something that, if you worked for the company would get you a promotion but it's nothing new, just hasn't been done before ? For example (not my idea ), the person who had the idea to put team logos on towels probadly worked for the company not a Licensor . Or what if it's just a remake, like bring back clear jelly sandals ? Can these ideas be licensed ? 

Can someone please answer these questions ? These question seem to never get answered in any forum ? Please help !! Thanks in advance for any response !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, very informative site !!!</p>
<p>I have a couple of questions to present to the table. One is what TERRY ASHTON posted, so can anyone answer those question presented by ASHTON.</p>
<p>What if your idea is in a field that would take years of schooling,  to actually come up with a prototype to sell. For example, LCD flat screen TV&#8217;s , I and I&#8217;m sure many, many others had this idea but how many of us can actually build a TV. How can an idealist sell a idea , like LCD TV&#8217;s but has no clue and would take years to get a clue about the product design, get a license ?</p>
<p>Also, what if your idea  doesn&#8217;t fall under &#8221; improving on an existing invention &#8221; ? What if your idea , is something that, if you worked for the company would get you a promotion but it&#8217;s nothing new, just hasn&#8217;t been done before ? For example (not my idea ), the person who had the idea to put team logos on towels probadly worked for the company not a Licensor . Or what if it&#8217;s just a remake, like bring back clear jelly sandals ? Can these ideas be licensed ? </p>
<p>Can someone please answer these questions ? These question seem to never get answered in any forum ? Please help !! Thanks in advance for any response&nbsp;!!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tim and gang!
Quite a culture that has developed here based off the book! I love it! The book certainly opened up lots of perspectives on life I had always had in my head but am glad you, Tim, were able to bring it out onto written word. Makes me feel not so alone!
My question is how do you feel about the network marketing industry? Have any companies approached you in the same respect they approached Robert Kiyosaki and his Rich Dad, Poor Dad? Are there any companies that you've had a chance to look over and have caught your eye?
Thanks much!

John

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Hi John,

I haven't explored this much and have turned down those that have made proposals thus far.  I'm always open to proposals, but I can't feel good endorsing most products I've had come my way.

Hope that helps,

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tim and gang!<br />
Quite a culture that has developed here based off the book! I love it! The book certainly opened up lots of perspectives on life I had always had in my head but am glad you, Tim, were able to bring it out onto written word. Makes me feel not so alone!<br />
My question is how do you feel about the network marketing industry? Have any companies approached you in the same respect they approached Robert Kiyosaki and his Rich Dad, Poor Dad? Are there any companies that you&#8217;ve had a chance to look over and have caught your eye?<br />
Thanks much!</p>
<p>John</p>
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<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t explored this much and have turned down those that have made proposals thus far.  I&#8217;m always open to proposals, but I can&#8217;t feel good endorsing most products I&#8217;ve had come my way.</p>
<p>Hope that helps,&nbsp;Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Ashton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I stumbled across this site last week and congratulate you on some very interesting articles.

But I have a specific question. I have been thinking laterally and dreaming up ideas/fixes/solution etc to the point of severe frustration. In the 80's I was in the computer games biz so have quite a bit of experience in licencing and in the 90's I took out patents so I understand that side too.

My question is: Not every idea is patentable. Nor can it have a registered design or copyright attached to it. So how does one approach a company (a potential licensor) with an idea that cant be protected, and how do you avoid being 'ripped off' by the company just 'taking' the idea.

I would add I have done many many 'confidientiality agreements' etc etc but in reality any company with a half decent lawyer would have no problem circumventing these.

So do you have a 'simple' flowchart for how each idea is 'licensed' dependant upon its level, if any, of protection

Thanks

Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I stumbled across this site last week and congratulate you on some very interesting articles.</p>
<p>But I have a specific question. I have been thinking laterally and dreaming up ideas/fixes/solution etc to the point of severe frustration. In the 80&#8217;s I was in the computer games biz so have quite a bit of experience in licencing and in the 90&#8217;s I took out patents so I understand that side too.</p>
<p>My question is: Not every idea is patentable. Nor can it have a registered design or copyright attached to it. So how does one approach a company (a potential licensor) with an idea that cant be protected, and how do you avoid being &#8216;ripped off&#8217; by the company just &#8216;taking&#8217; the idea.</p>
<p>I would add I have done many many &#8216;confidientiality agreements&#8217; etc etc but in reality any company with a half decent lawyer would have no problem circumventing these.</p>
<p>So do you have a &#8216;simple&#8217; flowchart for how each idea is &#8216;licensed&#8217; dependant upon its level, if any, of protection</p>
<p>Thanks&nbsp;Terry</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea for a series of childrens books that fit perfectly into the new "yoga" mommy, Baby Einstein mindset of educating small children. Being a young mother myself I have had plenty of opportunities to test the idea on other mother's and children and they all love it.  My question is because it's a series of books should I try to start a small publishing company myself or is it possible to license the idea to a company. Is it even possible to license a book idea or is it harder because its not a typical invention?
Thanks a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea for a series of childrens books that fit perfectly into the new &#8220;yoga&#8221; mommy, Baby Einstein mindset of educating small children. Being a young mother myself I have had plenty of opportunities to test the idea on other mother&#8217;s and children and they all love it.  My question is because it&#8217;s a series of books should I try to start a small publishing company myself or is it possible to license the idea to a company. Is it even possible to license a book idea or is it harder because its not a typical invention?<br />
Thanks a&nbsp;lot.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephen,

Don't some (many?) companies just take your idea and run with it, expecting that you won't have the resources to go after them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t some (many?) companies just take your idea and run with it, expecting that you won&#8217;t have the resources to go after&nbsp;them?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi People,

From my experience the home business industry is a great way to tap into a proven system and begin marketing.  Be weary of the "automated systems" you will have to funnel lots people into these systems, so just b/c you dont have to talk to people, there are other big hurdles.  People will never buy big ticket items with out some level of training and mentorship.  The business I found allows me to earn a maximum of $14k per customer, and yes it is not uncommon for them to purchase all of my products at once.  While there is a benefit to doing small testing, in the end there may not be a big pay off, and that time and energy could be better harnessed using an already existing model, that has big payouts.  I am glad I did what I did, because my ideas are too niche and not mainstream enough.  The best thing I could think of is an e-book on how to be a club DJ, but why market to an audience that loves pirating copyrighted material.

Just my thoughts, Thanks Tim!

Eric Dick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi People,</p>
<p>From my experience the home business industry is a great way to tap into a proven system and begin marketing.  Be weary of the &#8220;automated systems&#8221; you will have to funnel lots people into these systems, so just b/c you dont have to talk to people, there are other big hurdles.  People will never buy big ticket items with out some level of training and mentorship.  The business I found allows me to earn a maximum of $14k per customer, and yes it is not uncommon for them to purchase all of my products at once.  While there is a benefit to doing small testing, in the end there may not be a big pay off, and that time and energy could be better harnessed using an already existing model, that has big payouts.  I am glad I did what I did, because my ideas are too niche and not mainstream enough.  The best thing I could think of is an e-book on how to be a club DJ, but why market to an audience that loves pirating copyrighted material.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts, Thanks Tim!</p>
<p>Eric&nbsp;Dick</p>
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