Comments on: The Best 8 Beverages in the World (Plus: Maui Treehouse and Wild Dog Video) http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/ Tim Ferriss's 4-Hour Workweek and Lifestyle Design Blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:27:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tim Ferriss http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/comment-page-1/#comment-63146 Tim Ferriss Mon, 15 Feb 2010 02:55:58 +0000 http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/#comment-63146 Outstanding observations, Chris. Thank you. Outstanding observations, Chris. Thank you.

]]> By: Chris Lewis, MH http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/comment-page-1/#comment-63050 Chris Lewis, MH Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:48:06 +0000 http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/#comment-63050 I've just got to add sweet mead (honey wine) to this delicious list. My favorite so far is the vanilla / cinnamon dessert mead made by Redstone Meadery in Colorado. http://redstonemeadery.com/store/catalog/Vanilla-Beans-and-Cinnamon-Sticks-Mountain-Honey-Wine-750-mL-p-6.html Cheers, Chris I’ve just got to add sweet mead (honey wine) to this delicious list. My favorite so far is the vanilla / cinnamon dessert mead made by Redstone Meadery in Colorado.

http://redstonemeadery.com/store/catalog/Vanilla-Beans-and-Cinnamon-Sticks-Mountain-Honey-Wine-750-mL-p-6.html

Cheers,

Chris

]]> By: Chris Lewis, MH http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/comment-page-1/#comment-63049 Chris Lewis, MH Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:38:25 +0000 http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/#comment-63049 As to the question of whether mate can be carcinogenic, the substances blamed for the alleged toxicity are polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), but are they naturally present in mate or the result of growing it in polluted areas and spraying it with pesticides as nearly all non-organic food growers do? Here's an excerpt from: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts69.html#bookmark02 What are polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs)? Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) are a group of over 100 different chemicals that are formed during the incomplete burning of coal, oil and gas, garbage, or other organic substances like tobacco or charbroiled meat. PAHs are usually found as a mixture containing two or more of these compounds, such as soot. Some PAHs are manufactured. These pure PAHs usually exist as colorless, white, or pale yellow-green solids. PAHs are found in coal tar, crude oil, creosote, and roofing tar, but a few are used in medicines or to make dyes, plastics, and pesticides. What happens to polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) when they enter the environment? * PAHs enter the air mostly as releases from volcanoes, forest fires, burning coal, and automobile exhaust. * PAHs can occur in air attached to dust particles. * Some PAH particles can readily evaporate into the air from soil or surface waters. * PAHs can break down by reacting with sunlight and other chemicals in the air, over a period of days to weeks. * PAHs enter water through discharges from industrial and wastewater treatment plants. * Most PAHs do not dissolve easily in water. They stick to solid particles and settle to the bottoms of lakes or rivers. * Microorganisms can break down PAHs in soil or water after a period of weeks to months. * In soils, PAHs are most likely to stick tightly to particles; certain PAHs move through soil to contaminate underground water. * PAH contents of plants and animals may be much higher than PAH contents of soil or water in which they live. Notice that it says they are poorly soluble in water (tea water?) and the main source is air pollution and pesticides. This reminds me of a study that supposedly linked high consumption of hot peppers to greatly increased cancer rates. When you look at how the study was done, however, you realize that the peppers the study participants were eating were grown in Mexico and absolutely SATURATED with pesticides - much more than usual. (A lot of herbs grown in 3rd-world countries are that way, unfortunately). Add to that that other studies have actually found that hot peppers can decrease cancer risk and I think you get the point. I am VERY skeptical of almost all "studies" until I know a few things about how they were done, who financed them (conflict of interest?), how the results were interpreted, how many other studies found conflicting results, etc. I'm going to continue enjoying my organic mate', but I'll also be remembering , "All things in moderation... including moderation." Cheers! Chris As to the question of whether mate can be carcinogenic, the substances blamed for the alleged toxicity are polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), but are they naturally present in mate or the result of growing it in polluted areas and spraying it with pesticides as nearly all non-organic food growers do? Here’s an excerpt from: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts69.html#bookmark02

What are polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs)?

Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) are a group of over 100 different chemicals that are formed during the incomplete burning of coal, oil and gas, garbage, or other organic substances like tobacco or charbroiled meat. PAHs are usually found as a mixture containing two or more of these compounds, such as soot.

Some PAHs are manufactured. These pure PAHs usually exist as colorless, white, or pale yellow-green solids. PAHs are found in coal tar, crude oil, creosote, and roofing tar, but a few are used in medicines or to make dyes, plastics, and pesticides.

What happens to polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) when they enter the environment?

* PAHs enter the air mostly as releases from volcanoes, forest fires, burning coal, and automobile exhaust.
* PAHs can occur in air attached to dust particles.
* Some PAH particles can readily evaporate into the air from soil or surface waters.
* PAHs can break down by reacting with sunlight and other chemicals in the air, over a period of days to weeks.
* PAHs enter water through discharges from industrial and wastewater treatment plants.
* Most PAHs do not dissolve easily in water. They stick to solid particles and settle to the bottoms of lakes or rivers.
* Microorganisms can break down PAHs in soil or water after a period of weeks to months.
* In soils, PAHs are most likely to stick tightly to particles; certain PAHs move through soil to contaminate underground water.
* PAH contents of plants and animals may be much higher than PAH contents of soil or water in which they live.

Notice that it says they are poorly soluble in water (tea water?) and the main source is air pollution and pesticides.

This reminds me of a study that supposedly linked high consumption of hot peppers to greatly increased cancer rates. When you look at how the study was done, however, you realize that the peppers the study participants were eating were grown in Mexico and absolutely SATURATED with pesticides – much more than usual. (A lot of herbs grown in 3rd-world countries are that way, unfortunately). Add to that that other studies have actually found that hot peppers can decrease cancer risk and I think you get the point.

I am VERY skeptical of almost all “studies” until I know a few things about how they were done, who financed them (conflict of interest?), how the results were interpreted, how many other studies found conflicting results, etc.

I’m going to continue enjoying my organic mate’, but I’ll also be remembering , “All things in moderation… including moderation.”

Cheers!

Chris

]]> By: Ann http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/comment-page-1/#comment-57589 Ann Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:54:45 +0000 http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/#comment-57589 Hi Tim Congrats on the new edition of the book! I just started drinking yerba mate (love the taste) and did some research on it. I came across some information that it might be carcinogenic. Are u aware of this? I really love the stuff and can drink more than 1 litre a day so am now a bit worried. Here's a link to some info I found: http://herbal-properties.suite101.com/article.cfm/yerba_mate_and_cancer I know everything is probably safe in moderation but I really love it and want to continue my mass consumption :) Was wondering if you know more about this aspect of yerba mate. Hi Tim

Congrats on the new edition of the book! I just started drinking yerba mate (love the taste) and did some research on it. I came across some information that it might be carcinogenic. Are u aware of this? I really love the stuff and can drink more than 1 litre a day so am now a bit worried. Here’s a link to some info I found: http://herbal-properties.suite101.com/article.cfm/yerba_mate_and_cancer

I know everything is probably safe in moderation but I really love it and want to continue my mass consumption :) Was wondering if you know more about this aspect of yerba mate.

]]> By: Jonathan Allen http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/comment-page-1/#comment-45252 Jonathan Allen Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:33:43 +0000 http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/07/26/the-best-8-beverages-in-the-world-plus-maui-treehouse-and-wild-dog-video/#comment-45252 I am a obsessed with drinks of all kinds, especially the unusual types. My short list would have to include : #3 Malta (malta india) which is a non-alcoholic Malt beverage with a very robust almost molassis flavor. #2 fresh fruit 'Frescas' preferably Honey Dew, but any ripe fresh fruit will do. Its simply blended up fruit, water, and sweetener ( I prefer the taste of Agave Nectar). a cold 'fresca' with chunks of the fruit is Heaven on a hot day. #1 Is without a doubt 'Koko Samoa' this is popular in samoa and NZ. Its just roasted and smashed coco beans, which harden into a chunk of Koko. The coco bean paste/pulp (koko) is boiled in water for about 30 minutes. What you end up with is a serious wake-up beverage that has lots of roasted coco nibs you get to nibble on as you drink it. I like adding some cream or soy milk to mine and sweeten to taste. WARNING: if you order this online make sure you dont get burnt reject Koko...Ive had this happen....its very sad. Try This Out if you ever get a chance!!! I am a obsessed with drinks of all kinds, especially the unusual types. My short list would have to include :

#3 Malta (malta india) which is a non-alcoholic Malt beverage with a very robust almost molassis flavor.

#2 fresh fruit ‘Frescas’ preferably Honey Dew, but any ripe fresh fruit will do. Its simply blended up fruit, water, and sweetener ( I prefer the taste of Agave Nectar). a cold ‘fresca’ with chunks of the fruit is Heaven on a hot day.

#1 Is without a doubt ‘Koko Samoa’ this is popular in samoa and NZ. Its just roasted and smashed coco beans, which harden into a chunk of Koko. The coco bean paste/pulp (koko) is boiled in water for about 30 minutes. What you end up with is a serious wake-up beverage that has lots of roasted coco nibs you get to nibble on as you drink it. I like adding some cream or soy milk to mine and sweeten to taste. WARNING: if you order this online make sure you dont get burnt reject Koko…Ive had this happen….its very sad. Try This Out if you ever get a chance!!!

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