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	<title>Comments on: How to Eliminate Junk Mail and E-mail in 30 Minutes&#8230; and Red Bull Book Party!</title>
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		<title>By: Kamin</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/comment-page-1/#comment-59340</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent the past week trying to work with SpamArrest to get their service to work properly.  I have a heavy IT background and still had difficulty with it.  I found that their service doesn&#039;t start right when you have a ton of e-mail to still clean up in your inbox.  Easy - I just move it all out at once anyway as I get ready to be more efficient with my e-mail.  The search feature will work fine in Outlook should I really need it.  Second, their support is only by e-mail and takes over a day to respond.  They give you all sorts of BS as to why you cannot call for support nor expect a decent response time even if things stop working.

Third, I have achieved close enough results for free by simply taking advantage of my online Exchange e-mail account (only $6 per month for the Exchange features which are much better than any imap or pop service).  I setup two rules with my Exchange service for e-mail flow to forward all e-mail to a gmail account where the spam protection is excellent.  Then, I have my gmail account forward the filtered e-mail right back to the inbox on my service.  Whether I use web access, my iPhone, or my Outlook software, I get filtered e-mail.  I receive about 200 spam messages a day, but I now only have to delete one or two out of my inbox and don&#039;t have good e-mail getting snagged by the gmail filter.  If I want to (I don&#039;t need to), I can always check the deleted folder in gmail with automatically clears out in 30 days. I also use the 80/20 concept of the most important e-mail addresses and domains which were imported in my contact lists for both the Exchange and gmail accounts - they both treat them as whitelists.

As a side note, I do have a rule that uses a short blacklist which immediately deletes a message and auto-replies to the sender that their e-mail will be immediately deleted and rejected.  I only use this blacklist for special annoying persistent salespeople, etc. that may keep getting through the filter (I only have a few addresses so far on this list).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent the past week trying to work with SpamArrest to get their service to work properly.  I have a heavy IT background and still had difficulty with it.  I found that their service doesn&#8217;t start right when you have a ton of e-mail to still clean up in your inbox.  Easy &#8211; I just move it all out at once anyway as I get ready to be more efficient with my e-mail.  The search feature will work fine in Outlook should I really need it.  Second, their support is only by e-mail and takes over a day to respond.  They give you all sorts of BS as to why you cannot call for support nor expect a decent response time even if things stop working.</p>
<p>Third, I have achieved close enough results for free by simply taking advantage of my online Exchange e-mail account (only $6 per month for the Exchange features which are much better than any imap or pop service).  I setup two rules with my Exchange service for e-mail flow to forward all e-mail to a gmail account where the spam protection is excellent.  Then, I have my gmail account forward the filtered e-mail right back to the inbox on my service.  Whether I use web access, my iPhone, or my Outlook software, I get filtered e-mail.  I receive about 200 spam messages a day, but I now only have to delete one or two out of my inbox and don&#8217;t have good e-mail getting snagged by the gmail filter.  If I want to (I don&#8217;t need to), I can always check the deleted folder in gmail with automatically clears out in 30 days. I also use the 80/20 concept of the most important e-mail addresses and domains which were imported in my contact lists for both the Exchange and gmail accounts &#8211; they both treat them as whitelists.</p>
<p>As a side note, I do have a rule that uses a short blacklist which immediately deletes a message and auto-replies to the sender that their e-mail will be immediately deleted and rejected.  I only use this blacklist for special annoying persistent salespeople, etc. that may keep getting through the filter (I only have a few addresses so far on this list).</p>
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		<title>By: bobun</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/comment-page-1/#comment-44425</link>
		<dc:creator>bobun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and after writing a post on this very topic – stopping junk mail – I was glad to have found some new tips here. Still, the advertisers always figure away to get to you eventually!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and after writing a post on this very topic – stopping junk mail – I was glad to have found some new tips here. Still, the advertisers always figure away to get to you eventually!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/comment-page-1/#comment-29621</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve searched around the web and found a lot of information similar to what you&#039;ve covered here, i.e. stopping junk mail. However, half of the unwanted things that the post office puts in my box are not &quot;mail&quot; per se; they are ads for local businesses, department stores, etc. How can I get this stopped? I don&#039;t know a search term for this; do you know what they are called?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve searched around the web and found a lot of information similar to what you&#8217;ve covered here, i.e. stopping junk mail. However, half of the unwanted things that the post office puts in my box are not &#8220;mail&#8221; per se; they are ads for local businesses, department stores, etc. How can I get this stopped? I don&#8217;t know a search term for this; do you know what they are called?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/comment-page-1/#comment-27651</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get rid of your junk mail, credit card offers, un-wanted catalogs, and request for money from charities try logging onto www.myjunktree.com. Its a great site and they can stop up to 90% of your junk mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get rid of your junk mail, credit card offers, un-wanted catalogs, and request for money from charities try logging onto <a href="http://www.myjunktree.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.myjunktree.com</a>. Its a great site and they can stop up to 90% of your junk mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Lapointe</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/comment-page-1/#comment-16133</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Lapointe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it since I wrote it, I&#039;m sure I spent more than $4 of time writing it and thinking about it.  And now I&#039;m back writing more.  So unless gMail turns out to be just as good, I&#039;ll go back to spamarrest.com

That and my playing with it, and my other blog post on it http://garysaid.com/chapters/002992.php
I&#039;ve probably spent $90 on thinking about it now...

But I&#039;m still wondering about other challenge/response server hosted solutions.  (I really miss MailBlocks, they would let me look at my unverified mail via IMAP and if I dragged an item to the inbox it would auto-add to the approved list for me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it since I wrote it, I&#8217;m sure I spent more than $4 of time writing it and thinking about it.  And now I&#8217;m back writing more.  So unless gMail turns out to be just as good, I&#8217;ll go back to spamarrest.com</p>
<p>That and my playing with it, and my other blog post on it <a href="http://garysaid.com/chapters/002992.php" rel="nofollow">http://garysaid.com/chapters/002992.php</a><br />
I&#8217;ve probably spent $90 on thinking about it now&#8230;</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m still wondering about other challenge/response server hosted solutions.  (I really miss MailBlocks, they would let me look at my unverified mail via IMAP and if I dragged an item to the inbox it would auto-add to the approved list for me).</p>
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