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	<title>Comments on: How to Eliminate Junk Mail and E-mail in 30 Minutes&#8230; and Red Bull Book Party!</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gary Lapointe</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/#comment-16133</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Lapointe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it since I wrote it, I'm sure I spent more than $4 of time writing it and thinking about it.  And now I'm back writing more.  So unless gMail turns out to be just as good, I'll go back to spamarrest.com

That and my playing with it, and my other blog post on it http://garysaid.com/chapters/002992.php
I've probably spent $90 on thinking about it now...

But I'm still wondering about other challenge/response server hosted solutions.  (I really miss MailBlocks, they would let me look at my unverified mail via IMAP and if I dragged an item to the inbox it would auto-add to the approved list for me).&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-16133"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it since I wrote it, I&#8217;m sure I spent more than $4 of time writing it and thinking about it.  And now I&#8217;m back writing more.  So unless gMail turns out to be just as good, I&#8217;ll go back to spamarrest.com</p>
<p>That and my playing with it, and my other blog post on it <a href="http://garysaid.com/chapters/002992.php" rel="nofollow">http://garysaid.com/chapters/002992.php</a><br />
I&#8217;ve probably spent $90 on thinking about it now&#8230;</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m still wondering about other challenge/response server hosted solutions.  (I really miss MailBlocks, they would let me look at my unverified mail via IMAP and if I dragged an item to the inbox it would auto-add to the approved list for me).
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		<title>By: Gary Lapointe</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/#comment-16132</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Lapointe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Spamarrest, but I have 2 problems (1 big and 1 small) with them:
They raised the price from $60 to $90 for two years (while barely added any features that I've noticed (or needed)).  

And the web interface has problems with slow connections, which I really only notice when I'm off the continent (and don't have time to trouble shoot).

So I switched to gMail two weeks ago (just forwarded the mail), and I can barely tell the difference. I'm not sure how much time I'm wasting, or if it's I just felt more secure with SpamArrest.

Are there any challenge response competitors out there?

I'm trying to decide if it's worth the whole $4 a month savings though, but it was only $2 a month before, so it irks me.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-16132"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Spamarrest, but I have 2 problems (1 big and 1 small) with them:<br />
They raised the price from $60 to $90 for two years (while barely added any features that I&#8217;ve noticed (or needed)).  </p>
<p>And the web interface has problems with slow connections, which I really only notice when I&#8217;m off the continent (and don&#8217;t have time to trouble shoot).</p>
<p>So I switched to gMail two weeks ago (just forwarded the mail), and I can barely tell the difference. I&#8217;m not sure how much time I&#8217;m wasting, or if it&#8217;s I just felt more secure with SpamArrest.</p>
<p>Are there any challenge response competitors out there?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to decide if it&#8217;s worth the whole $4 a month savings though, but it was only $2 a month before, so it irks me.
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had been a loyal and paying customer of Spamarrest for some time, recently their service has been erratic and I lost a number of important messages. After not receiving adequate support I decided to cancel my recently renewed account and asked for a refund of the unused portion. Here is their response:
Hi David, 

Thanks once again.

David, I am very sorry to tell you that we are not able to offer you a refund for your account. You may continue to use your Spam Arrest account till 2008-10-01 by reactivating the account. 

I truly apologize for your inconvenience, David. Please do let me know if you need anything else.

Best Regards,
Peter
Technical Support Specialist
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been a loyal and paying customer of Spamarrest for some time, recently their service has been erratic and I lost a number of important messages. After not receiving adequate support I decided to cancel my recently renewed account and asked for a refund of the unused portion. Here is their response:<br />
Hi David, </p>
<p>Thanks once again.</p>
<p>David, I am very sorry to tell you that we are not able to offer you a refund for your account. You may continue to use your Spam Arrest account till 2008-10-01 by reactivating the account. </p>
<p>I truly apologize for your inconvenience, David. Please do let me know if you need anything else.</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Peter<br />
Technical Support Specialist<br />
Spam Arrest
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		<title>By: Rob D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim - 

One more thing you've got to do if you want to truly eliminate all credit card offers etc. Opt out of the credit card databases. It's amazing how your junk mail stops almost immediately.

Rob

http://robdeichertjr.blogspot.com/2006/01/eliminating-junk-mail.html&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-2045"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim - </p>
<p>One more thing you&#8217;ve got to do if you want to truly eliminate all credit card offers etc. Opt out of the credit card databases. It&#8217;s amazing how your junk mail stops almost immediately.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
<p><a href="http://robdeichertjr.blogspot.com/2006/01/eliminating-junk-mail.html" rel="nofollow">http://robdeichertjr.blogspot.com/2006/01/eliminating-junk-mail.html</a>
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		<title>By: Gavin Allinson</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Allinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 23:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spam Arrest has worked wonderfully well for me.
it's caused me to think twice about subscribing to new information.

One tool that I think you will like for the weak willed amongst struggling with going cold turkey on the information diet is... Temptation Blocker.

It allows you to lock yourself out of certain programs for a set period of time. I've decide to reinstate it having read Your book Tim. I put it on a while ago and didn't use it because I dint like it, (no shit Sherlock)

anyway here is a link for it

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=147977&#38;package_id=163170&#38;release_id=355983&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-841"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spam Arrest has worked wonderfully well for me.<br />
it&#8217;s caused me to think twice about subscribing to new information.</p>
<p>One tool that I think you will like for the weak willed amongst struggling with going cold turkey on the information diet is&#8230; Temptation Blocker.</p>
<p>It allows you to lock yourself out of certain programs for a set period of time. I&#8217;ve decide to reinstate it having read Your book Tim. I put it on a while ago and didn&#8217;t use it because I dint like it, (no shit Sherlock)</p>
<p>anyway here is a link for it</p>
<p><a href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=147977&amp;package_id=163170&amp;release_id=355983" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=147977&amp;package_id=163170&amp;release_id=355983</a>
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		<title>By: Tim Ferriss</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/#comment-825</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ferriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 02:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

I actually use SpamArrest in exactly the fashion you do, but I have disabled the whatever@mydomain.com forwarding. Only a few select options get through at all. Within Gmail, I've found their spam filter to work wonderfully. In my case, there is not much more to it, though I'm beginning to have certain addresses forward to specific Gmail addresses for virtual assistants that handle certain functions.

Hope that helps! 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>I actually use SpamArrest in exactly the fashion you do, but I have disabled the <a href="mailto:whatever@mydomain.com">whatever@mydomain.com</a> forwarding. Only a few select options get through at all. Within Gmail, I&#8217;ve found their spam filter to work wonderfully. In my case, there is not much more to it, though I&#8217;m beginning to have certain addresses forward to specific Gmail addresses for virtual assistants that handle certain functions.</p>
<p>Hope that helps! </p>
<p>Tim
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 00:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

First, let me say thank you for a life altering book and blog.  Much appreciated!

Now, I have more spam than I know what to do with.  Can you please tell me more about how you use SpamArrest and gmail together? 

I have most of my sites using a general forwarder, so everything that goes to that domain will get forwarded.  That's my first mistake, I'm sure and I have to change that so only certain emails go through. And all that email gets forwarded to my ISP email account, which is being forwarded to my SpamArrest account.

So whatever@mydomain.com get's forwarded to my ISP, which gets forwarded to SpamArrest which I download with my email client.

Any suggestions on a better solution than this?  I KNOW there's gotta be one!

Thanks!!

~ Paul&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-822"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>First, let me say thank you for a life altering book and blog.  Much appreciated!</p>
<p>Now, I have more spam than I know what to do with.  Can you please tell me more about how you use SpamArrest and gmail together? </p>
<p>I have most of my sites using a general forwarder, so everything that goes to that domain will get forwarded.  That&#8217;s my first mistake, I&#8217;m sure and I have to change that so only certain emails go through. And all that email gets forwarded to my ISP email account, which is being forwarded to my SpamArrest account.</p>
<p>So <a href="mailto:whatever@mydomain.com">whatever@mydomain.com</a> get&#8217;s forwarded to my ISP, which gets forwarded to SpamArrest which I download with my email client.</p>
<p>Any suggestions on a better solution than this?  I KNOW there&#8217;s gotta be one!</p>
<p>Thanks!!</p>
<p>~ Paul
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		<title>By: Smart Startup</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/05/04/how-to-eliminate-junk-mail-and-e-mail-in-30-minutes-and-red-bull-book-party/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>Smart Startup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 18:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Amazon still hasn't shipped after 5 days. All I can say is that the book had better be good as I have plugged it sight unseen on my blog and in the forum at www.startupjunkies.org.

:o)&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-652"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Amazon still hasn&#8217;t shipped after 5 days. All I can say is that the book had better be good as I have plugged it sight unseen on my blog and in the forum at <a href="http://www.startupjunkies.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.startupjunkies.org</a>.</p>
<p>:o)
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		<title>By: Tim Ferriss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Ferriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 07:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All!

Victory, count me in for training with BJ in Hilo. He is amazing. I was with him when he beat Matt Hughes for the title in the UFC.

Peter, Smart Startup, and everyone else, I'm sorry the book has been so hard to get ahold of! No one expected the response to be so sudden, so the distribution was insufficient. The book is once again in-stock on Amazon, as there are trucks full of books headed in all directions in the US. I believe the retail shelves should be stocked next week. Thank you for your support!

All the best,

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All!</p>
<p>Victory, count me in for training with BJ in Hilo. He is amazing. I was with him when he beat Matt Hughes for the title in the UFC.</p>
<p>Peter, Smart Startup, and everyone else, I&#8217;m sorry the book has been so hard to get ahold of! No one expected the response to be so sudden, so the distribution was insufficient. The book is once again in-stock on Amazon, as there are trucks full of books headed in all directions in the US. I believe the retail shelves should be stocked next week. Thank you for your support!</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Tim
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		<title>By: Smart Startup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smart Startup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 21:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a tougher book to obtain than this one? I have now been trying for over two weeks. Initially I spent over a week calling local bookstores back because they kept telling me that copies were due to arrive any day. Last Monday (four days ago) I finally gave up waiting and placed an order with Amazon.

As of today it still hasn't been shipped.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-642"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a tougher book to obtain than this one? I have now been trying for over two weeks. Initially I spent over a week calling local bookstores back because they kept telling me that copies were due to arrive any day. Last Monday (four days ago) I finally gave up waiting and placed an order with Amazon.</p>
<p>As of today it still hasn&#8217;t been shipped.
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